Hey guys, today we have the David Childress who you’ve seen many times on Ancient Aliens TV show. He has published so many books. But he has some fascinating information about mount Kailash, and other mountains. Welcome, David. Hi Praveen.
You’ve been to the Himalayas and you spent a long time there what’s the strangest mountain you been to ? To me the strangest mountain that I’ve been to is Gaurishankar which is in the Rolwaling Himal, north of Kathmandu and just to the west of Mount Everest. So, is it technically in India? No it’s in Nepal and it’s completely in Nepal. It’s totally in Nepal. Yes, I don’t think it’s even part of the border with Tibet. Gaurishankar is a very strange mountain because it’s very similar to Mount Kailash in Tibet. Those two mountains are both famous because they are both, the reputed home of Shankar- Shiva. And it’s so well known that Mount Kailash is the abode of Shiva and so many Hindu and Buddhist pilgrims. Yeah, most people don’t know about Mount Gaurishankar. I mean most of the Hindus don’t know about that. People only think oh mount Kailash, but you know it’s fascinating. So, what is in it? So you have this second mountain and you have mount Kailash, as abode of Shiva, but Shiva was also supposed to live on Gauri Shankar. And that mountain is especially holy mountain in Nepal, and I think that most of the people in Nepal do know about GauriShankar. But outside of Nepal I think most people aren’t really aware of it and most tourists, don’t know about Gauri Shankar either. Gauri Shankar is a sacred mountain in Nepal and the king of Nepal early on he forbid anyone to climb Gauri Shankar. Oh really!!No we didn’t climb it. No one is allowed to climb it. Why, Why is that? That’s because it is the abode of Shiva. So, I’ve always was so curious about why is Mount Kailash the abode of Shiva and why is Gaurishankar the abode of Shiva, what is special about those mountains? And we have in the United States in Northern California we have also a very special mountain called Mount Shasta. It’s in the very far north of California. It’s near the Oregon border, it’s big forest there and this is an area too where Bigfoot is known to be and that area, it’s well known. People very much generally, believe in Bigfoot there. But they also believe in that area of the strange legends of Mount Shasta. And Mount Shasta is a volcano, extinct volcano. It looks kind of like Mount Fuji in Japan or something like that. A mountain just by itself up big, big tall mountain with snow at the top of glaciers. There’s many lava tubes and tunnels there, a big forest it’s there’s no big cities nearby, only a few small towns. There is one highway going north up to Oregon. this is part of California that’s not very populated at all. and people see UFOs coming out of the mountain, they claim. I have been there are a couple of times. And back in the 1800s even already the strange legends of Mount Shasta began with a book called ‘A Dweller on two planets’ by ” Phylos the Tibetan”. So, this book…going back to Tibet. But that book also talks about ancient masters like the Rishis of the Ramayana, these masters and some are Hindu – Chinese other Hindu- Indians, other than Chinese and in that book there’s a master named Quang and he shows to this person Walter Pierson in the 1800s. A hidden door to go into the mountain, Oh really, yeah into the Mount Shasta. So, in that book inside of Mount Shasta is like an ancient city. Oh really? Yeah ancient masters and they have a Vimanas. There are people who are staying in there or maybe are living for a very long time. They’re humans perhaps are also extraterrestrials there. They have a high technology coming from the ancient civilizations of Atlantis. In that book they talk about Atlantis and past lives. Yeah that book is also about reincarnation and past lives. But it’s an American book from the late 1800s. It became very popular book in the United States many people have read that book. I know about it and when you go to Mount Shasta, everyone they know about these stories. You have been to Mount Shasta? Yes and even one time when I was driving by Mount Shasta, I was speeding and I got stopped by the police to give me a ticket for speeding and I started talking to the policeman and I said I was going to Mount Shasta and he even the policeman started telling me, ‘Oh yes! the Lemurians in Mount Shasta’! Yeah the Lemurians from Lemuria which was in the Pacific. But in the book of Dweller on Two Planets they talked about Atlantis. The Lemurians… Yeah I mean are they like secretly living somewhere in Mount Shasta. Yeah that’s a story. yes and they’re from Lemuria or mount Shasta or Atlantis okay or it’s in ancient India yes so yeah your sense the Lemuria is part of the ancient India so and then Ramayana and may be Mahabharata stories. So, I was always interested in all that, and Vimanas. From the early age, I was reading lots of books on this. And I knew stories about Mount Shasta too. So anything else about Shasta? Well here’s the idea is that there’s a city inside Mount Shasta some ancient city, there’s a high-technology. Inside the mountain? There’s a secret door? That’s right and even there are places where UFOs, flying saucers or Vimanas or something ,that come out. People have frequently claimed okay to have seen that. I didn’t, I’ve never lived there I’ve only been a visitor for a few days okay so, to me I think there’s something to that and many people in America particularly California are believers in that. so now back to mount Kailash and GauriShankar, yeah I thought I’m wondering if Mount Kailash is also some mountain like Mount Shasta. Mount Kailash is not a volcano nor is GauriShankar. Neither of these are volcanoes. But Mount Shasta is a volcano, or an extinct one. So interesting story too – I’m from Colorado and it’s well known to everyone in Colorado that there’s a mountain just west of Colorado Springs in southern Colorado and that mountains called Cheyenne Mountain. Cheyenne? Cheyenne Mountain named after an Indian tribe the Cheyenne. Now that mountain – it’s not a volcano either. It’s Granite Peak and what the American government did after World War II, they decided to hollow that mountain out. Oh really? They built a city? That’s right, the American government with the military, they built a city inside that mountain. A high-tech military city. But it’s not accessible like.. for people like us? No we can’t go there. There’s a road going up to it but then there’s gonna be gates and the military’s guarding it. To go beyond those gates you will need a special pass, civilians are not allowed to go there at all. I mean, it’s top-secret place to go to and with high security. They admit they have it. Okay I mean they don’t deny. Yes we have this mountain, we’ve hollowed it out but it’s a big mountain too. There’s a city inside.. there are elevators there’s maybe even a train station deep underground . There’s people living in there. There’s high-tech radar and the computers and we don’t know how many people are inside that they’re all military and they’re gonna have high security clearance. So here is a city inside the mountain, that we know about which is very high-tech. It is real. There’s no question about this place and so now we have also stories of Mount Shasta. It’s a kind of same thing only as an ancient place. So now, when I thought of Mount Kailash and GauriShankar, I thought wow, is it possible that in those ancient times of the Rama Empire and the Mahabharata, of this high-tech time of India, when they have the Vimanas, did these wars, the devastating weapons, other high-tech things.. in my mind they had whatever we have today they could have had back then.
There’s no reason why anything we’ve invented today couldn’t be invented in the age past, there’s no reason for that. For you to have the kind of technology we’re talking about you need electricity, you need metals, you need the power of flight, knowledge of physics, also lasers, weapons, explosives. Cutting machines that can cut through rock, granite all of these things and I believe they had that in ancient India. I think also an ancient Atlantis, in ancient Egypt they had that, in South America too. Those kind of megalithic walls to lift giant stones. Perfectly cut them and then fitting them. I mean they’re doing something that’s very high-tech, extremely high-tech. And that it requires power tools, high technology, the ability to levitate stones, and move them somehow. At least with giant cranes, what we would do today but I think they had the ability that was beyond our capability. With anti-gravity, levitation, cutting the stones with lasers maybe, who knows? So, it occurred to me really that Mount Kailash might have this the same.. a city inside or in ancient times it was also a door was cut in to Mount Kailash and then some kind of city created inside the mountain. What about Mount Gaurishankar? And then Mount GauriShankar, the same thing. You think there’s like an ancient city carved into the mountain of GauriShankar? It’s possible! I don’t know. I’m not claiming I’ve been into any of these places. I’ve not been inside the Mount Shasta or Gauri Shankar. I mean I’ve just seen these places. With Mount Kailash I’ve read books about it I’d seen many photos and Mount Kailash is particularly unusual because it’s by itself and it’s a giant pyramid coming out of Tibetan Plateau. You see it all size of the two lakes there, so many sadhus and holy men they want to go there, and then they want to make a circumnavigation of the mountain. Yes they do circumambulate Mt Kailash. With Gauri Shankar they don’t do that you can’t do that, because Gauri Shankar is a forbidden place. Well and it is it’s in the Himalayas, so it wouldn’t be possible to walk around it. It is a range? Yes its part of a range, right. And Gauri Shankar is kind of behind the ranges and it’s not.. even today trekkers and people don’t go into that area in Nepal very much. And no one’s allowed to climb there, so there’s not any of these climbing expeditions that are going to Mount Everest. If you’re going to Mount Everest you’re not going to see GauriShankar, you’re not gonna be in that area. You can’t even get there. Because you would have to go over this very high pass and the Rolwaling Himal. So it is just my theory, that Mount Kailash and Gauri Shankar could have some ancient cities inside. Perhaps even Vimanas have been kept there. There’s a lot of UFO sightings in that area.. hundreds of them. Yeah right.. when people are seeing UFO sightings in Tibet and Nepal. So perhaps those UFOs are coming from Mount Kailash or from Gauri Shankar, or from other places too. Particularly in Tibet is very many remote mountains and high mountains.
You have a lot of strange stories like Shangri-la and Shambhala. Shambhala which is the Buddhist stories of a paradise and the masters are there. Those stories also include the Vimanas the ancient technology from the ancient times that’s been preserved. And you’re gonna have certain priests and families who are taking care of these things for many generations for thousands of years. Sometimes they come out and they attract their humans or most of them look like human beings and you won’t know if you’re talking to them, they’re educated. The stories of Mount Shasta: they would come into a town they would have nuggets of gold, and even there were some stories or they would come to some of the early settlements and back then you could always bring gold and they would weigh it and you could go to a store. And buy things with gold and so this could easily have happened in the Himalayas too. There’s a very interesting story that takes place in.. actually in China and Tian Shan range that was told by a Danish explorer named Henning Haslund and he wrote several books, one was called ‘Men and Gods in Mongolia’ and the other one was called ‘tents in Mongolia’ . And we republished both those books and in the ‘Men and Gods of Mongolia’ he tells a very curious story that’s also like Mount Shasta or Mount Kailash. They’re in a part of f western Mongolia where China is coming and it seems to be part of the southern Alti-Himalaya. Which is in there really western Mongolia. And that goes into China as well and they were staying with a Chinese governor, kind of warlord of this region, and they’re a big caravan of people . So they’re travelling with yaks and camels but they have equipments and things. And they’re staying with him as guests and they have some magazines from Europe and it’s the 1920s.. or early 1930s, and they’re showing him the magazines. And there’s some photographs of flying airplanes which was new to this is Chinese governor. He has never seen an airplane before . He was very interested in those and he was like “oh, this is great, that they fly” and then these guys are saying “yeah we have these now and you know the governments we’re building these, you can fly to places” and the Chinese governor then tells him this strange story. And he says “Oh, I want to get one of these airplanes because we have a mountain over here. A very strange mountain, and I want to go to the top of it because no one can come to the top of this mountain and that there’s something strange happening on the top of that mountain” and Henning Haslund asked him “oh really what’s what is so strange about this mountain?” and the Chinese governor tells him that “Well, people here have tried to climb up to the top of the mountain and it’s not like Mount Everest with you know impossible to climb. This is a mountain.. Which mountain? I don’t.. we don’t know the name of it. Do you think its Mount Kailash? No it is not Mount Kailash because it’s a different mountain. Yeah, it’s a different mountain than farther north. But it is like mount Kailash or Mount Shasta and what happens there.. The story he told was that when people try to climb the mountain and even he has sent people and it’s a high mountain it will take them some days. But whenever they get towards the top of the mountain they suddenly.. they pass out.. they pass out and they find themselves back at the bottom. What?! Yeah so and they think there was some kind of City, up on top of this mountain, this is what he thinks. And they suspect and maybe they’ve seen some lights and things on there. Like it’s some UFO landing place or something. And you’re many stories like this in South America too, by the way. So yeah his problem is that no one can go up there, because as soon as they go near the top, they pass out and then they’re not hurt, but they find themselves back at the bottom. They’ve been transported back to the bottom. In some days, one or two days, way back to the bottom. They wake up and they don’t know what’s happened to them. And they cannot get to the top of this mountain and the governor believes that if he has an airplane, he can they just fly there and see what’s there, because it’s baffling you know? It’s a big mystery that he wants to solve. But you don’t think this is Mount Kailash. it’s not okay it’s not mount Kailash, it’s not mount Gauri Shankar it’s a different mountain, a different far off yeah. So, you know in South America I’ve spent a lot of time in South America. There’s stories like this too and of certain mountains and high mountain lakes where the similar thing happens. They get there, but then they find that they pass out and they find themselves back down at the bottom. Where ? Where in South America? Somewhere it’s in Peru and Bolivia ..around Lake Titicaca. In that area where you have high mountains, you have a range on the east side of Lake Titicaca going towards the Amazon. In Bolivia, they call it the Royal range and you see above Lake Titicaca itself is on what’s called the Altiplano – the high plain. And that’s a big vast area and the lake is there in Titicaca which is gonna be in parts of that a very deep. 800 feet deep.. In parts in the northern parts of a very, very deep. The southern parts of the lake are more shallow and there’s only a few hundred feet deep. It’s in those areas where they Bolivian archaeologists and others believe that there are cities underwater, sunken cities. They were somehow swallowed up in some Cataclysm and there were megalithic cities and things like that. But it’s in that area where people are trying also to find these mountains, a lot of UFOs are seen in this area . Also UFOs are seen coming out of some lakes, including Lake Titicaca yeah, usually very late at night, at 4:00 in the morning you know. We drive two hours before dawn when everyone is sleeping. Then, UFOs come out of the lake sometimes, people say they witnessed that. There is another Lake near Cusco, that also has this legend it is well-known. this lake is has UFOs.